When you live in the concrete jungle you usually have a pretty good idea where your property lines begin and end. Of course there are many a neighbor who have had a dispute over small patches of land, but it gets even harder when the boundaries are out in the woods covered with over grown brush in areas where a fair number of poisonous snakes are found. The survey crew has been out in the woods over the last week trying to big up these old markers.
Some of the points are fairly easy to locate because the corner posts from the old fence are still standing in a couple places, but just getting back to those corners can take a whole bunch of hacking through brush with a machete. Even more to get a clear signal for the GPS devices that they use to mark these spots. Luckily the kind of survey we are have done does not require them cut a line of site from one corner to next. If that had to happen I would have to cut the lines myself due to certain budget restrictions.
Most often each spot is marked with some type of buried metal. Pipes, old tools, sometimes old rifle barrels where used to mark property corners. Working from the field notes on the deed they have to locate each one and clear enough area to get a GPS signal. Most often the marker hasn't got any actual marking on it at all, but since that should be the only reason to bury an old piece of rusty pipe out in the woods you know when you have found it. With two machetes and a metal detector they have found all the marked corners of the property and are drawing up the survey.
Some of the markers are from when this property used to be part of one large piece owned by the Kirby lumber company. The survey crew says that a few of these concrete markers should have had some brass plates on them with field notes them from way back when, but the plates have come off. They don't need to find the plates if they locate the marker, but I am going to check around these areas with our old 1970's metal detector and see if I can dig any of these up. I figure that in ten years I will be able to do the survey with an app on my iphone. It might be sooner if they ever figure a way to get a better signal out here in the boondocks.
Showing posts with label Land Survey. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Land Survey. Show all posts
Saturday, June 4, 2011
Monday, February 14, 2011
My lesson in Cartography
This is a picture I took of a survey map at the appraisal district office this morning while I was trying to sort out how our property taxes had gotten jacked up. When you live in the city the boundaries of your property are usually pretty clear. At our house in Vegas I could have measured the whole lot with a three hundred foot tape measure in about a half hour. There is of course always easements and once and a while neighbors have issues about where the lines begin and end, but it get more complicated when you can't actually walk along the property lines or see from one corner of the property to the other because there is a tons of trees and brush in the way.
According to the appraisal district, which is who decides how much you owe, a portion of our property had never been included in the tax roles. When they added it and created a tax ID account for that section it was no longer considered land with agricultural value and was taxed much higher than some of the other parcels. The problem comes in when you have to figure out which parcel is which. No where on the ground does it say this is parcel 777777. I had to go over all the maps and aerial photographs with the mapping guy who at first assured me that no mistake had been made. The problem is that the lines are often left on the maps for separate parcels even when those parcels have been combined into a single tax account number. Lines are also sometimes removed when parcels are bought from different people by one buyer.
In order to determine which parcel is which you have to go over the field notes on the deeds which basically say start at one agreed upon point and then say turn south 97 degrees go 85 feet turn east 56 degrees go 79 feet etc, etc, etc, The only way to find the points is to take a metal detector and look for the scrap that is usually buried as a marker. According to the mapping guy rusty rifle barrels were once a popular marker that would be hammered into the ground by the surveying crew. Why survey crews had piles of rusty rifle barrels laying around I will never know.
Each chunk of land here is divided into files by the origanal surveys ours falls into the Robert Conn survey and you can dig through the file which is a collection of maps, photos, field notes, legal documents, etcs. One survey from the sixties clearly showed how the land was originally divided and made the problem clear. A piece of our land had not been properly accounted for, but not the piece they tried to add. The good news for us is that since they can't tax us twice on the same piece we get a break this year, but have to file to have the newly added section classified as agricultural timber land. What a pain in the @$$.
According to the appraisal district, which is who decides how much you owe, a portion of our property had never been included in the tax roles. When they added it and created a tax ID account for that section it was no longer considered land with agricultural value and was taxed much higher than some of the other parcels. The problem comes in when you have to figure out which parcel is which. No where on the ground does it say this is parcel 777777. I had to go over all the maps and aerial photographs with the mapping guy who at first assured me that no mistake had been made. The problem is that the lines are often left on the maps for separate parcels even when those parcels have been combined into a single tax account number. Lines are also sometimes removed when parcels are bought from different people by one buyer.
In order to determine which parcel is which you have to go over the field notes on the deeds which basically say start at one agreed upon point and then say turn south 97 degrees go 85 feet turn east 56 degrees go 79 feet etc, etc, etc, The only way to find the points is to take a metal detector and look for the scrap that is usually buried as a marker. According to the mapping guy rusty rifle barrels were once a popular marker that would be hammered into the ground by the surveying crew. Why survey crews had piles of rusty rifle barrels laying around I will never know.
Each chunk of land here is divided into files by the origanal surveys ours falls into the Robert Conn survey and you can dig through the file which is a collection of maps, photos, field notes, legal documents, etcs. One survey from the sixties clearly showed how the land was originally divided and made the problem clear. A piece of our land had not been properly accounted for, but not the piece they tried to add. The good news for us is that since they can't tax us twice on the same piece we get a break this year, but have to file to have the newly added section classified as agricultural timber land. What a pain in the @$$.
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